I will keep my 95 SC400 Renaissance red lexus.
I’m thinking the people who really want a new Supra will continue to wait until one comes out and not buy a BMW.
It costs too much because it’s a BMW.
But it’s an old Nissan! Never will be a classic, handling is shite and bad Nissan reliability to boot
Cheeper than the Z4 better handling, and toyota dealer support.
Nice ride, but looks like a mid 2000’s M Coupe to me…
Blows me away how many people will state something in black and white despite contrary evidence right under their noses - and expect to be taken seriously. How could you write this, presumably immediately after reading a hardcore Supra fan saying he had ordered one?
Then you must have missed the fairly prominent intro saying this was going to be a perspective piece from a Supra fan. Or do you open a packet of macaroni and complain that it’s not spaghetti?
He gave us his perspective on the car, I gave mine. Is that not allowed? I didn’t tell him not to buy one, I just said I wouldn’t. As I stated, I have owned four Lexus vehicles, and I own one now. Had I went to the Lexus dealership and found the Lexus I was looking at was built by BMW, and had a BMW engine, I wouldn’t buy it. I owned a BMW, they are not as reliable as something built by Toyota. If your a fan of the new Supra, by all means buy it and I wish you good luck with it. Oh and by the way, if I buy a packet of macaroni, when I open it I expect it to be macaroni.
Near the turn of the century, I installed a 2JZ Supra Twin Turbo engine in my Lexus SC300, a rare model with the 5 speed manual. With aftermarket turbo controllers, I was running about 18 PSI boost (as compared to, something like the stock 14PSI or less as I recall). The engine developed close to 450 HP, more than any sane person could want, and I had some great drives with that car. In my mind, the original Lexus SC300/400’s were the epitome of 90’s styling, fit and finish, but, of course, the design is a bit long in the tooth by today’s standards.
Nevertheless, no matter how many fancy gadgets the 5th gen “Supra” boasts, I just cannot wrap my head around the gawdawful styling of this creature… bumps and swirls and break lines throughout the car for no functional or visual reason. It is almost as though they designed the original prototype in clay, and then it melted down to what is left. That gaping Guppy mouth that only a mother could love, on a body completely devoid of any chrome. Call me old school, but this design just doesn’t hold a candle to the MK IV, in spite of its age.
If you want a car that looks like this, then I’d say save yourself a bundle and just buy one of those Subaru sport coupes. Unless you put a big banner on the front, no one will be the wiser.
Looks like a mouth-breathing Carp.
For my taste this is one unfortunate looking car. My first reaction was that it looks like a study hall sketch with every current styling cliché mashed together on one set of 4 wheels. Or maybe eight designers each got to design one eighth of the car. However it got there it isn’t good.
Nicely written article. I’m sure the car looks very good in person. Seems like many manufacturers are fond of the horseshoe grill. Side view kind of looks like my Dodge.
Frankly, I’m surprised at the comments here, but as we all know, opinions are like noses, everyone has one. I thought the article by Mr. Stevens was written well enough and interesting, coming from the perspective of a life-long Supra fanatic. He set the table on his history with the Supra and transitioned to the track day ride, and his thoughts on the car and it’s development background. Good automotive writing involves information as well as the human aspect in order to garner an article worthy of printing. One without the other is quite boring.
Joint efforts between manufacturers are nothing new and to denigrate some for liking the final product, or for being of a particular age, is a bit much. GM/Toyota, Ford/Mazda, Ford/Nissan, Chrysler/Mitsubishi, and probably many more I can’t think of, are all joint efforts that produced some great vehicles. Why wouldn’t this be any different? Only time will tell, but both of these companies, especially Toyota, pride themselves in producing great cars. It wouldn’t have come to fruition if either side had any inkling of producing a less-than-worthy product.
If you don’t like the styling or the joint venture you are entitled. Just don’t attack the guy who wants one and is passionate about driving. Besides, it sounds like some of the stuff in Mr. Stevens stable could spank most of the rides of the posters here. If you want a better perspective, why don’t you go drive one. He did and we all know the result. Or maybe pass judgment on something and continue to live in a bubble. Your choice either way, of course.